From holmes@icanect.netThu Nov 7 14:25:44 1996 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 10:44:35 -0500 From: Ernie Holmes To: stryx@mars.superlink.net, cccart@sartory.com, dcampbel@kefron.portal.ca, mrose@usibr01.usi.edu, weyrmen@ix.netcom.com, mcbride7@btigate.com, rew@Traveller.COM Subject: Fixed Livgren chat transcript Here's the transcript in the correct order and with a few repetitive entries removed - thanks to Richard North and his Excel skills. Ernie [ Part 2: "Attached Text" ] Kerry Livgren Chat Transcript 10/30/96 ====================================== Ernie Holmes 18:37:54 Good evening folks! Don Martin II 18:39:47 Hello Ernie Holmes 18:41:58 I've been looking forward to tonight! Don Yakielashek has joined the chat at 18:42:09 "Don Yakielashek, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Tim Hammell has joined the chat at 18:43:14 "Tim Hammell, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Don Martin II 18:43:56 Me too Tim Hammell 18:44:39 "Hi Ernie you just talked to me a second ago, this is Bill brother :)" Tim Hammell 18:45:00 "Hi Ernie you just talked to me a second ago, this is Bill brother :)" Tim Hammell 18:45:24 aaahhh every time I hit reload it sends the message again Ernie Holmes 18:45:32 "Hi Tim! Believe it or not, Bill asked me to remind him about this. :)" Tim Hammell 18:46:43 Can you tell he is a little meshiga about this? Ernie Holmes 18:46:44 thats strange tim Steven Churchill has joined the chat at 18:47:24 "Steven Churchill, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Tim Hammell 18:47:31 Bill just stormed in complaining about traffic... Tim Hammell 18:48:05 I guess he thought he missed something ;) Ernie Holmes 18:48:33 Greetings Steven! Steven Churchill 18:49:00 Greeting guys! Ernie Holmes 18:49:38 "Tim, tell Bill irc.progrock.org is down!" Tim Hammell 18:50:36 yeah I even noticed that earlier. I told Bill before when he called from work. Tim Hammell 18:51:20 "By the way Bill says ""Hi"" to everyone" Ernie Holmes 18:52:45 "Steven, thanks for your posts to the Livgren e-mail list!" Steven Churchill 18:52:59 "Kerry will be joining us shortly. So, what do you guys think of ""Odyssey Into The Mind's Eye""?" Ernst P Zingle has joined the chat at 18:53:17 "Ernst P Zingle, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Tim Hammell 18:53:36 "Bill says,""It's awesome!""" Tim Hammell 18:54:30 "Bill is asking,""where is John Bowes?""" Ernie Holmes 18:54:46 "It's an amazing video, Steven - both sight and sound!" Tim Hammell 18:55:34 how many people can be on this thing at one time? Ernst P Zingle 18:55:39 "Greetings All, " "Just a quick question, whats a ballpark" figure for cost$/second of a top quality "anim (video game, commercial, or movie)?" Kerry has joined the chat at 18:56:02 "Kerry, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Steven Churchill 18:56:04 "Have you guys seen any of the previous ""Mind's Eye"" videos, and if so, how would you compare" them to the new one? Steven Churchill 18:56:28 Hi Kerry! Kerry has joined the chat at 18:56:34 "Kerry, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Don Martin II 18:56:40 "I've only watched it once so far, but I just love it." david campbell has joined the chat at 18:56:56 "david campbell, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Kerry 18:57:07 "OK, are we up and running?" Ernie Holmes 18:57:08 Welcome Maestro! Kerry 18:58:35 Glad to be here. Art Jones has joined the chat at 18:59:04 "Art Jones, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Ernie Holmes 19:00:03 "Steven, are we free to ask away?" Tim Hammell 19:00:28 Hi Kerry! Did you see my John Elefante page? :) For those who dont know this is currently Tim AND Bill Hammell Kerry 19:00:38 Your question please. Steven Churchill 19:00:40 Yes! Kerry 19:01:07 Haven't seen an Elefante page. Tim Hammell 19:02:14 Are you going to release Prime Mover through Numavox and what bonus tracks might it have? Ernie Holmes 19:02:33 "Kerry, the music for the video is great! " "Was all the animation complete before you started to compose, or were any changes needed to be" made as you wrote the score? Christine Christianson has joined the chat at 19:02:37 "Christine Christianson, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Richard North has joined the chat at 19:03:20 "Richard North, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Tim Hammell 19:03:26 Elefante page URL... http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/7261 (MAJOR SYSTEM CRASH AT THIS POINT) Jimmy Clutter 19:21:03 Someone get Kerry back on here! Rod Z. has joined the chat at 19:21:37 "Rod Z., you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Don Martin II 19:21:40 "Well, this is fun." Don Martin II 19:28:09 "We should do this on AOL, I think. Starting December AOL has unlimited hours for $20.00." Jimmy Clutter has joined the chat at 19:28:19 "Jimmy Clutter, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Jimmy Clutter 19:29:00 HI!! david campbell 19:29:26 "feals like i was just lost in a black hole, good to be back in" Jimmy Clutter 19:30:35 Ernie? Ernie Holmes 19:30:38 Does anyone have Kerry's home phone # ? :) Kenny Byrd has joined the chat at 19:31:44 "Kenny Byrd, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Don Martin II 19:31:45 Kerry! Kerry! Kerry! Kerry! Art 19:32:20 Bear with Us .. we are trying to get the server working again and will get Kerry back when it's up... Bill Hammell has joined the chat at 19:36:22 "Bill Hammell, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Mike Carley has joined the chat at 19:36:56 "Mike Carley, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Ernie Holmes 19:37:13 Bill Hammell has entered the building Steven Churchill has joined the chat at 19:38:02 "Steven Churchill, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Kenny Byrd 19:38:13 Well in case this doesn't work out tonight just like to say the video was great and keep on making music Mr. Livgren. Marty Connell 19:38:19 Let's do a sing-a-long... Carry on my wayward son... Ernie Holmes 19:39:51 There'll be peace when you are done ... Jimmy Clutter has joined the chat at 19:41:24 "Jimmy Clutter, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Art 19:41:24 I think it's 'fixed' for now. Kerry should be joining us soon! Jimmy Clutter 19:41:59 "That, That Is" Steven Churchill 19:42:54 "Hey, sorry guys -- looks like the server got totally overwhelmed, and we lost Kerry. I will see if he" "can get back on -- if not, we will re-schedule, with a really beefy server." Don Martin II 19:43:06 Anybody see a copy of Audio Confessions? Kenny Byrd 19:43:44 Things got electric and the server got shocked. Ernie Holmes 19:45:29 I see a copy of Audio Visions right in front of me Kenny Byrd 19:47:05 I subcsribed to get audio confessions but haven't got it yet. Mike Carley left the chat at 19:47:26 Art 19:47:58 "So, have you all been die-hard Kansas fans since the beginning?" Ernie Holmes 19:48:55 Only since '76 Kenny Byrd 19:49:12 Yes a die-hard fan since 1974 and the first LP> Marty Connell 19:49:43 I was first exposed to Kansas in 76 when I was 9 years old. Been a fan ever since. Jimmy Clutter 19:50:39 This ISN'T a Kansas chat!! Steven Churchill 19:51:30 "Kerry is going to try and re-enter. So, what did you guys think of ""Odyssey Into The Mind's Eye""?" Ernie Holmes 19:52:27 "Hey Jimmy, he asked, and i think he's got some power here :)" Kerry has joined the chat at 19:53:06 "Kerry, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Jimmy Clutter 19:53:33 Hi Kerry!! Kerry 19:53:37 I'm back Don Martin II 19:53:42 I've been a fan since 1977. Steven Churchill 19:53:56 Hi Kerry -- glad you made it back in! Marty Connell 19:54:08 "Loved OitME, Steven. How is it doing on the video charts?" Jimmy Clutter 19:54:19 Kerry has cool music! Kerry 19:54:30 That was hairy... Ernie Holmes 19:54:43 Thanks for returning Kerry Kenny Byrd 19:55:05 "Hi Kerry,how are you doing?" Steven Churchill 19:55:32 "OitME has been on the Billboard Music Video charts for a few weeks now, between #17 - #25." Kerry 19:55:40 Doing fine...working on the soundtrack CD Steven Churchill 19:56:27 "So, do you guys have any questions for Kerry about his music for ""Odyssey...""?" Kenny Byrd 19:57:10 How long did the video take to do from start to finnish? Marty Connell 19:57:15 When is the CD supposed to be released? I don't have a VCR in my car. :-) Bill Hammell 19:57:21 "Kerry, what songs are you adding that are not on the video" Ernie Holmes 19:57:22 "Kerry, was the animation complete when you started composing, or was any editing necessary to" work with the music? Kerry 19:58:14 There was lots of editng. The videos were in varios stages of completion Jimmy Clutter 19:58:53 "Kerry, what inspired you to compose music for computer animations?" Kerry 19:59:49 "I'm adding a vocal version of The Traveller, a new instrumental, and a different version of" Empowering Steven Churchill 19:59:50 Kenny: We here worked on the video for about four months prior to beginning to show Kerry the "edited segments -- Kerry, I think you started working on the music in December or 1995?" Steven Churchill 20:00:36 That's December OF 1995. Kerry 20:00:42 "I've always wanted to do film or AV work, but never had a good opportunity til' now." Mike Carley has joined the chat at 20:01:17 "Mike Carley, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Kerry 20:01:33 12/95 sounds about right. It went very slow at first. Jimmy Clutter 20:01:42 "Kerry, do you ever plan to come back to the state of Georgia that you love so much?" Ernie Holmes 20:02:25 "Kerry, the scenes with the hammers was truly amazing! - was that the most difficult thing to ""sync""?" Kerry 20:02:38 Jimmy- I'm pretty well settled in Kansas now. Still love GA. Bill Hammell 20:03:03 "Kerry, have you considered working on a project with Joh Elefante again?" Jimmy Clutter 20:03:15 "If you ever come back to GA, stop by! :)" Kerry 20:03:38 Out of Step was by far the most difficult. Crossfaded tempos in sync...... Kerry 20:04:25 "Would consider it, but John and I are both pretty independently busy." Kenny Byrd 20:04:27 "Kerry , Any speculation on when the CD will be released and are you and Mr. Churchill planning" on any other projects? Jimmy Clutter 20:05:19 HELLO? Marty Connell 20:05:23 "Kerry, did you request One Dark World to be on the video and was the video matched to your" song or vice versa? Jimmy Clutter 20:05:48 (that was a test) Kerry 20:06:08 I assume the CD will be released as soon as it's finished and the deal for it is closed. david campbell 20:06:31 "Kerry, i am a canadian starving to get your new work. any way of finding it up here?" Kerry 20:07:18 "I sent Steven WTGE, which had just come out, and he suggested One Dark World would make a" good animation. Bill Hammell 20:08:00 are there any song titles of bonus tracks for upcoming reissues that you can tell us? and what CD's will have them? Kerry 20:08:01 David- Try calling 1-800-4356185 david campbell 20:08:43 thanks Kerry Kerry 20:09:07 Bill- "There are several. I would like to include all of what is on Decade, since it is out of print." Steven Churchill 20:09:17 "To help answer a previous production question, we sent Kerry rough edited versions of a few of the" "video segments to begin scoring to, new video segments, and finally the finished segments." "Sometimes we would go back and forth, modifying to each other's work until everything worked" properly. Bill Hammell 20:10:39 what about any other AD period stuff that you never released (AD is my fave) Kerry 20:10:54 "It was a new procedure for me, but I fell into step......" Jimmy Clutter 20:11:02 Check out Bill Hammell's Kerry Livgren page! Ernie Holmes 20:11:46 "Kerry, I'm sure you don't have a ""formula,"" but do you usually work with guitar or keyboard parts" first when composing? Kerry 20:11:47 Bill- Most everything AD recorded has been released. I have one new track for Reconstructions Marty Connell 20:11:52 "Kerry, what's in store for you after you finish the soundtrack CD? Gonna' send any more material to" Kansas for future CDs? Kerry 20:12:29 Ernie- "Both, but usually keys first." Kerry 20:13:42 Marty- "I have several releases of old projects to get out, and when that's finally complete- then a new" project. Jimmy Clutter 20:14:46 "Kerry- A source I will not name wonders ""Who is the King""? :)" Steven Churchill 20:14:53 Note: If any of you here in the States or in Canada can't locate copies of the video in your local "video stores, I would like to know about it and inform Sony of it -- please send me e-mail with" news of any problem there. Ernie Holmes 20:15:18 "Kerry, do you use computerized sequencing, particularly on a project like Mind's Eye?" Steven Churchill 20:15:37 I have a question for you Kerry: What electric guitars did you use for the video? Marty Connell 20:15:51 "Kerry, when you say ""old projects"" do you mean re-issues of AD stuff, or never before heard" material? Kerry 20:15:56 Jimmy- There are lots of Kings. What domain? Jimmy Clutter 20:16:28 Kerry- unrealeasedsongs.com Jimmy Clutter 20:16:53 and also the world Kerry 20:17:01 Marty- "Old simply means already recorded. Mostly released, but I like to include unreleased tracks in" these re-issues. Kerry 20:18:24 "I'm not the King of unreleased songs, maybe just Jack." King Messiah Jesus is King of the World. Ernie Holmes 20:18:41 "Kerry, how about the keyboards you used on Mind's Eye as well?" Jimmy Clutter 20:19:17 right on! Jesus is King! Ernie Holmes 20:19:36 Amen Kerry 20:20:18 Ernie- "That's always a state of flux, but mainly e-64, K2000, Alesis Quadrasynth, Roland Jupiter, KT-88" Marty Connell 20:22:59 "Kerry, I noticed on the video you thanked the inventor of the Mac. I am a Mac user too. What" "sequencing tools do you use? BTW, I'm also a fellow Ensoniq user (KS-32)." Kerry 20:24:04 Marty- Just got a new Power PC. The best. I use Performer software. Steven Churchill 20:24:21 "What electric guitars did you use Kerry? Particularly on ""The Empowering"" and ""Utopian Dream""?" Kerry 20:26:12 I used nearly all of my collection on Mind's Eye. "On the two songs you mentioned, I used a Zion that I call ""The Pumpkin""." Kerry 20:27:24 "Correction, it was a Paul Reed Smith on Empowering, but a Zion on the ""bonus"" version." Ernie Holmes 20:27:26 "Kerry, what kind of amps/effects do you use for the guitars?" Bill Hammell 20:27:27 is there any hope for the songs listed at BMI that we never heard? Kerry 20:29:20 Ernie- "I use a digitech unit, forgot what it's called...." There's too much to remember. I just plug it in. Kerry 20:29:48 What BMI songs? Ernie Holmes 20:30:12 Ha! Bill Hammell 20:32:27 "OK, these are ones that they list:" "The Dragon, Red Money, Just Another Day, It Moves You, So Ends The Show, Remember You" Well. Ernie Holmes 20:32:51 "Kerry, I think Bill is saying that there are a number of us who would buy anything and everything" "you could release. Demos, outtakes, unfinished stuff - you understand." david campbell 20:33:34 please do it Kerry! Kerry 20:33:59 "Oh yes. Well, someday they may be included in a collection of unreleased songs, but the market for" such a release would probably be fairly small. Jimmy Clutter 20:34:17 just release it and make your fans happy! :) Kenny Byrd 20:34:39 "This is Kerri, wife of Kenny Byrd and I just want to say that I truly love the song ""One Dark World""" It touches my heart and lifts my soul. Thank you for such a beautiful song Kerry 20:35:10 There's usually a good reason why certain songs don't make it on an album. It's not that they're not "good, they just didn't fit in." Bill Hammell 20:35:26 "yeah, maybe like how Phil Keaggy has ""Acoustic Sketches"" which is a collection of songs that he" recorded and is sold basically through the fan club Ernie Holmes 20:35:27 "Kerry, we could set up an audio server on the internet, and do pay-per-listen! :)" Kerry 20:35:59 "Thanks, Kerri (good name!) and Kenny." Steven Churchill 20:36:14 "In creating the video, we aimed that people who watch it would have an uplifting kind of feeling." "Can anyone describe the feeling they get watching the video, listening to the music, or anything else" you would like to share about it. Kerry 20:36:50 Bill- one of my favorite things I have heard him do is on that collection. Kerry 20:37:29 Ernie- great idea. Kerry 20:38:13 Steven-I've seen it 1000 times and I still wonder what these animators start with. Bill Hammell 20:38:33 "Cool, I have to get Acoustic Sketches still." Marty Connell 20:38:54 "Kerry, any chance of a tour?" Ernie Holmes 20:39:23 "Steven, I'm mesmerized by the video. Everything about it just fits so perfectly. And my 2 1/2 year" old loves the dinosaurs! david campbell 20:39:44 Kerry's music has been uplifting from the very first time i heard it as a kid in 9th grade. it never fails. must be the power source you're plugged into Kerry. Kerry 20:40:06 "Always a chance, but I prefer the studio. More productive in the long run." Kerry 20:41:26 David- "I've certainly never thought of myself as the source of the music, more like a conduit." Mike Carley 20:42:55 "Steve, Kerry: My 22-month old son, Jeff, loves to watch the video with me. He gets a bit" "concerned though, when the sea monster is chasing the dolphin." Kerry 20:43:47 "I was concerned myself, when I first saw it." Ernie Holmes 20:44:33 Ha! Bill Hammell 20:44:59 "are you going to have other artists on your label, like maybe old reissues of Gleason, or the" Shewbridge one that I asked you about in January? or even new artists Jimmy Clutter has joined the chat at 20:46:08 "Jimmy Clutter, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Ernie Holmes 20:46:45 "Steven, I'm in south Florida and I see the video in all the stores. Is it selling as well as you hoped?" Kerry 20:47:04 Bill- "Numavox is a very small label. It's fairly ""safe"" for me to release my own projects, but very" expensive and a big gamble to release an unknown artist. Steven Churchill 20:47:08 Mike: "Actually, that portion of animation is some of the very best and most complex ever done -- it was" created by a company in Los Angeles called Rhythm & Hues. Jimmy Clutter 20:47:53 "You could classify Kerry's music in the ""happy"" music genre. Along with others such as Jon" Anderson. Jimmy Clutter 20:48:36 Steven: What type of computers did they use to create the animation? SGIs? Kerry 20:49:03 "Steven- ""A Mind's Eye Composers Chat"" would be great. Dolby, Hammer, and I comparing" notes.... Steven Churchill 20:49:27 Ernie: I'm happy to hear that the video is available and visible in stores there. The folks at Sony tell me that "they have shipped 50,000 copies so far." Mike Carley 20:49:37 "Kerry, as you worked on the soundtrack, did you get any inspirations on the animation side" "(concepts of course, not the technical side)." david campbell 20:50:46 they need to ship a little farther north! Bill Hammell 20:51:01 (Jimmy runs the ultimate Yes Website South Side Of The Sky) Kerry 20:51:40 Mike- "Some of the musical ideas I already had, and they were adapted to a particular segment, but most" of the music was written for each clip. Marty Connell 20:51:40 "Steven, you've done an excellent job of selecting composers for the Minds Eyes series. Any ideas" who will do the next one? Steven Churchill 20:52:31 Jimmy: "Yes, most animators are using SGI workstations, but an ever increasing number of people are using" "PC's, Windows NT and software like 3D Studio MAX, Softimage, Lightwave; or Electric Image" on the MAC. Ron McBride has joined the chat at 20:53:01 "Ron McBride, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Steven Churchill 20:53:25 Kerry: A Mind's Eye Composers Chat sounds great! I'll see if I can arrange it -- let you know. Kerry 20:53:35 Francois Breant would be great.... Ernie Holmes 20:53:41 "Kerry, how many thousand hours did you put into this project?" Jimmy Clutter 20:53:51 I've tried messing with 3D drawing and animation software and I admire the people that can actually operate the software! Jimmy Clutter 20:54:17 Ron! Ron McBride has joined the chat at 20:54:21 "Ron McBride, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Steven Churchill 20:54:52 Jimmy: We haven't started thinking about that yet. Don Martin II 20:55:24 Thank you for all the great music Kerry and God bless you. Ron McBride 20:55:37 "Kerry, I really enjoyed the music in the video. Is any thing in the works for Movie scores??" Kerry 20:56:48 Ernie- I lost track. Seven months from start to finish. (that wasn't constant work) Kerry 20:57:08 Don- Most welcome. Ron McBride 20:57:19 Hi Jims Steven Churchill 20:57:45 David: What city are you in? Please e-mail me tomorrow with the names of the stores you have tried finding the video in. Thanks! Bill Hammell 20:57:47 "Steve, how about getting Chris Huelsbeck, here is his site" Jimmy Clutter 20:59:25 http://terra.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de/~cwinkler/huelsb/index.html God has truely blessed Kerry with his talent. Kerry 20:59:42 "How bout' getting Weird Al Yankovic and calling it ""Oddity into the Mind's Eye""?" Mike Carley 20:59:45 "Kerry: What I meant to ask was if you had any ideas for the ""video"" portions." david campbell 21:00:29 "Steven, i am in Vancouver B.C. i have been trying the major cd stores as well as christian book" "stores. so far no luck, but i'm not giving up" Steven Churchill 21:00:30 Bill: I'll check him and his site out. Why do you recommend him? Marty Connell 21:01:23 "Steven, how about Alan Parsons?" Steven Churchill 21:01:45 Kerry: GREAT idea! Kerry 21:01:46 "Mike-no, I would be in over my head. I left that to Steven and concentrated on the score." Ernie Holmes 21:02:14 I would buy a Wierd Al version Ron McBride 21:02:42 "Kerry, any offers for movie scores??" Kenny Byrd 21:03:04 "Steven, How about Kerry again." Steven Churchill 21:04:25 Marty: I met with Alan Parsons a few months ago and discussed the idea with him -- he was very interested. I'll check back with him soon to see if he is still interested and available. Bill Hammell 21:05:25 He basically does soundtracks for games. He won his first award for a composition on the "Commodore 64 at age 17. he did the music for a slew of games including the Turrican series, and a" soon to be released game for the Sony Playstation called Tunnel B1. His music stands alone as it is very unique. Kerry has joined the chat at 21:06:38 "Kerry, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Art 21:06:45 "Steve, how about Tangerine Dream?" Ron McBride 21:08:10 Kerry anything in the works for scoring Movies?? Jimmy Clutter has joined the chat at 21:08:15 "Jimmy Clutter, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Bill Hammell 21:08:57 Chris has a list of all of his work on his page. My brother says he is one of the best. Kenny Byrd 21:09:14 Sounds like a winner to me steven. Kerry 21:09:38 Someone asked if I contributed to the video- "no, just the music." Jimmy Clutter 21:09:59 (Jimmy notes that Bill knows what he's talking about when it comes to music) Steven Churchill 21:10:02 Art: "I like Tangerine Dream, especially the more recent stuff, which is more upbeat and melodic," "including guitars. I spoke to their manager recently, so we could possibly explore the idea with" them. Kerry 21:10:28 "No present plans for movie scores. I've been asked before, but didn't like the movies." Ron McBride 21:10:47 "Kerry, did you see my question about if you have any offers for movie scores??" Ron McBride 21:10:57 "Kerry, did you see my question about if you have any offers for movie scores??" Bill Hammell 21:11:19 How about Rick Wakeman Kenny Byrd 21:11:23 Tangerine Dream would be great. Ron McBride 21:12:04 Kerry thanks for Seeds of Change it helped me through a dark period Kerry 21:12:39 It would be hard for me to picture a Mind's Eye vidoe now without a guitarist. Bill Hammell 21:12:54 Kerry why did you leave Kansas (JUST KIDDING!! :) david campbell left the chat at 21:13:09 Kerry 21:13:31 Ron- Glad to be of service. Marty Connell 21:13:38 "Rick Wakeman...there's someone you could team up with, Kerry. I believe he is a fellow Christian." "Boy, that would be a dynamic duo!" Steven Churchill 21:13:46 Bill: I haven't heard any original music from Rick Wakeman for a long time (kind of out of touch I "guess), but I would especially like to hear what he has been doing since he became a Christian." Kerry 21:14:13 Bill- To move to Georgia. Ernie Holmes 21:14:37 "Kerry, any plans for getting together with David Pack some more in the future?" Kerry 21:15:19 "Yeah, we could call it ""Two Blondes""" Ron McBride 21:15:29 "Kerry, when you did the score for the video , was some of the music done independently and just" seemed to fit? Steven Churchill 21:15:50 Kerry: I really agree with you -- I would definitely want guitars in anything we do in the future. Bill Hammell 21:15:59 "Steve find the CD-Rom game called Microcosm. It was released by Psygnosis, and Rick did the" CD tracks for it. This is the style that would be perfect for a mind's Eye Video. I am listening to the songs from it as we speak/write Kerry 21:16:07 Ernie- David is a good friend of mine. Our schedules never seem to coincide. Ron McBride 21:16:47 "Steve, check out ""the gospels"" by Wakeman" Kerry 21:17:31 Ron- "Yes, I would say roughly a third of it I had composed before I saw the video, and the pieces were" adapted. Steven Churchill 21:18:53 Thanks Ron & Bill -- I'll check those both out. Ron McBride 21:19:30 "I liked the one about the creator I thought that was well done, I think it will touch those with a" different point of view Ernie Holmes 21:19:39 "Kerry, can't think of many things better than your music and Pack's voice. (musically of course)" Art 21:20:34 Gotta go guys. Thanks Kerry for putting up with the server problems! Bye Steve... Kerry 21:20:45 "Steven- I've never asked you this, but how many of the animators would you characterize as" amateurs? Mike Carley 21:21:01 Steve: I might note that I had never heard of the Odyssey animation series and probably would not have had it not been for postings on the People of the Southwind list. I think you got quite a few new (and future) fans simply by having Kerry as the composer. Kerry 21:21:07 Bye Art. Art left the chat at 21:21:40 Ron McBride 21:21:50 "Steve, I like the way you put the whole thing together, I imagine it was quite tough editing" Kerry 21:22:15 "Ron- you must mean ""Intelligent Life"". It certainly will stimulate some thinking on that subject." Bill Hammell 21:22:18 "Steve, Because Microcosm is so hard to find now(out of production), and I frequent computer" "shows, I could pick you up a copy for under $10." Ron McBride 21:23:07 "Hey Bill, me too!!! hehe" Ron McBride 21:24:02 "Yeah, Kerry, my brother borrowed the video, I havent seen it since. but thats the one. hehe" Steven Churchill 21:24:24 Ron: "I heard ""One Dark World"" and knew it would fit perfectly for the project. Actually, about ten pieces" "of animation were custom created for the video, including the image of God creating a world, which" is in that segment. "We discovered that ""The Empowering"" song fit the the video segment we were developing fairly late" in the production. Kenny Byrd 21:24:31 "OITME was outstanding,cant wait for the next series and also the coming works of yours Kerry." Kenny Byrd left the chat at 21:25:04 Jimmy Clutter 21:25:08 or you can check out Wakeman's _Six Wives of Henry VIII_... Kerry 21:25:28 Steven do you know of any upcoming broadcasts? Bill Hammell 21:25:54 "Steve, Chris Huelsbeck has Audio CD's that he composed. Also the email address on that page I" sent is his own. My brother has talked through email with him. He is a real nice guy and has great talent. Ron McBride 21:26:31 "Thanks Steve, yeah that is a powerful segment. I have been hawking this video everywhere I have" all of the Mind's eye series Bill Hammell 21:26:50 "Ron, I can get you one too, the game is ok, but the music is the main draw" Marty Connell 21:26:58 I saw some of the Mind's Eye videos as back drops for the VJs on MTV the other day. Kerry 21:27:30 "The Empowering was originally just a ""scratch"" idea I recorded and sent to Steven. " Bill Hammell 21:28:04 "Chris Huelsbeck is _my brother Tim's_ favorite composer bar none, (he says ""sorry Kerry"")" Ron McBride 21:29:02 "Kerry, and Steve, if you have any old ""scratch"" material I would be glad to take it off your hands" haha Bill Hammell 21:29:20 "Kerry, where is John Bowes tonight? I thought he would be in here for sure" Steven Churchill 21:29:21 Kerry: I think that all of the animators do this for a living. Kerry 21:30:12 The question is: who is Chris' favorite composer? Jimmy Clutter 21:31:00 Kerry: Do you admire any of the classical composers? Kerry 21:31:12 John Bowes-whereabouts unknown. Steven Churchill 21:31:13 Ron: "If you look at the credits, you get a feel for how many different clips are edited in the video." Bill Hammell 21:31:52 "Kerry: I don't know, but who is your favorite?" Ron McBride 21:32:22 "Kerry is Spring Arbor or any of the Bible stores vendors distributing your material, now that" Numavox is happening?? Kerry 21:32:23 "Jimmy-Certainly! Grew up on them. Actually, I'm more prone to the Romantic and Impressionist" period. Marty Connell 21:32:45 "Kerry, as an east coast resident, I've got to get some sleep. Thanks for all the music. God as used" you as a powerful instrument for ministry. My first Christian CD was ADs _Art of the State_ and "my fav Christian CD is Vinyl Confessions. Look forward to you future releases. Steven, thanks for" setting this up. Let us know about future projects. Ernie Holmes 21:33:25 Scrath idea? Wow! Does this lend any truth to the Phil Ehart quote in the boxset about you not knowing a hit Kerry? Ron McBride 21:33:36 "Yeah, I saw the credits, Steven, thats what I was amazed at. You did a fantastic job." Kerry 21:34:07 "BIll-Ralph Vaughan Williams, Debussy, Wagner, R. Strauss, Dvorak, Mahler...." Kerry 21:35:00 Ron- Riverside distributes Numavox in the CCM market Jimmy Clutter 21:35:27 Kerry: Does that mean you are into Romantic literature too? Instead of more Realism? Bill Hammell 21:35:28 LOOOOOOOOK (Jimmy is responsible for making the Livgren list possible. Through his server) Ron McBride 21:35:29 "Kerry, I thought there would be a Wagnerian influence!" Kerry 21:35:57 "Marty- good night, God Bless" Kerry 21:36:54 Jimmy-my literature tastes favor history at this point. Jimmy Clutter 21:37:11 (Bill is the main administrator of the Kerry Livgren e-mail list) Ron McBride 21:37:17 "Ok thanks Kerry, I will advise the local bookshops of that I live in Rapid City, SD come on up and" do us a concert!! You will love the Black Hills You could play at Sturgis Harley Rally Bill Hammell 21:37:38 "Kerry, cool, mine are Livgren, Bach, Handel, Vivaldi, etc" Art has joined the chat at 21:37:39 "Art, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Jimmy Clutter 21:37:52 Kerry: Was anyone in your family involved in music or are you the first one? Kerry 21:38:04 Ron- I actually arranged a Wagner piece for Kansas - Lohengrin Bill Hammell 21:38:56 "My brother Tim says that James Horner, Chris Huelsbeck, and Yuzo Koshiro should be added to" that list Ron McBride 21:39:48 "Kerry, I thought I heard that somewhere before haha" Kerry 21:39:58 Jimmy- I have recently been doing my genealogy. I've found more musicians than I thought there were. Ron McBride 21:41:16 "Steven, what is in the works now? I came in late so I apologize if this has been asked" Bill Hammell 21:42:28 "Is anyone else transcribing this chat, because I'm not doing a very good job :(" Bill Hammell 21:44:34 "Kerry, are you re-releasing Prime Mover? and will that have any bonus?" Ron McBride 21:45:33 "Steven and Kerry, I need to go. but thanks for talking with us. God bless you in your efforts to" "further the Truth. Kerry, thanks so much for the music, it has made a difference." Art 21:45:55 Steve will be back soon! (he got bumped off!) Ernie Holmes 21:46:04 I'm logging the chat Bill Hammell 21:46:16 "Bye Ron, see ya in IRC" Jimmy Clutter 21:46:53 bye Ron Kerry has joined the chat at 21:46:56 "Kerry, you must hit reload on the page to see the latest conversation." Ron McBride 21:47:36 "Bye, Bill Jimmy and ERnie, and the rest of you. Bill thanks for leading the way here. I couldnt find it" otherwise Kerry 21:47:56 Sorry-I got bumped off again. Jimmy Clutter 21:48:29 Hi Mr. Kerry Livgren :) Ernie Holmes 21:48:32 "Good night, Ron!" Ron McBride 21:48:38 "Kerry, if you didnt see it, Thanks for the music, it has made a difference" Kerry 21:48:44 "Actually, folks, I have to go. The rooster will crow soon." Mike Carley 21:49:50 "Kerry, Steve: Thanks!" Kerry 21:49:56 Thanks for your support. It means a lot. God Bless Art 21:50:31 "Kerry, Steve says thank you and good bye (I'm on the phone with him --this is hi-tech)" Bill Hammell 21:50:41 "ok Kerry, Thanks for taking the time to do this. It must make you nuts answering all these questions," especially mine Mike Carley left the chat at 21:51:14 Don Martin II 21:51:15 Good night Kerry. Thanks for being here. Kerry left the chat at 21:51:19 Ron McBride 21:52:39 any body hungry for some flapjacks? Ron McBride 21:53:53 "Steve, thanks for the beautiful Work, God bless" Steven Churchill 21:54:52 Hi guys! I got bumped off about 15 minutes ago. I understand Kerry left. Any questions for me? Ron McBride 21:55:36 Steve what's next?? Bill Hammell 21:57:22 "yeah, Steve, what does the Traveller sound like with vocals, and who is the singer (if you know this)" Steven Churchill 21:58:07 Ron: "We are currently working on a video called ""Computer Animation Classics"", which will show the" "best work from the mid-eighties, kind of a retrospective. Also, we are working on a video called" "Mindscape which is kind of like the ""Mind's Eye"" idea, only the animation is all from one artist." Ron McBride 21:58:25 Hey guys my wife gave me a reprieve! I can stay a little longer Ron McBride 21:59:06 who is that artist?? Steven Churchill 22:00:15 Bill: "I haven't heard ""The Traveler"" with vocals yet because it hasn't been recorded yet. It will probably" be sung by Jason Beddoe. Steven Churchill 22:01:34 "The artist is Beny Tchaicovsky of ZOE. His animation is in ""The Gate"" and ""Odyssey...""." Bill Hammell 22:01:58 "ok, do you know who sings those backround vocals at the end on the instrumental version?" Bill Hammell 22:03:00 Steve what do you think of Art Of The State by AD? Its my favorite work by Kerry and my favorite all time album. Steven Churchill 22:05:12 Bill: "The really cool haunting background vocals are by Britta Livgren, Kerry's neice." Ron McBride 22:05:22 "Thanks Steve, I have the Gate as well. It would be interesting to see you put together a video for" "Neil Young's ""Trans"" album" Steven Churchill 22:06:15 Bill: "I really like that album too. I've been so busy, I haven't had much time to listen to anything much" lately! Bill Hammell 22:07:24 "cool, what about the male voice on it" Steven Churchill 22:08:23 Ernie or Bill: "If you could e-mail to me a transcript of this chat, I would appreciate it. There are people who" "asked if they could read it, because they couldn't be here tonight." Bill Hammell 22:09:16 "Well I could but Ernie has done the better Job I think, hey ern, did you get the stuff I sent?" Steven Churchill 22:09:44 Bill: It was Jacob Livgren. Bill Hammell 22:11:13 "cool, too bad he isnt singing the full version, cuz I think he sounds great on it. " Bill Hammell 22:12:36 Steve do you want a copy of Microcosm? Ernie Holmes 22:12:51 "Steven, I'll try and e-mail it to you tomorrow. I might have missed a line or two but otherwise got it" all. Steven Churchill 22:13:33 Bill: "It is still an option -- spoke with Kerry about this just yesterday, deciding based upon the style and" the availability of the two. Bill Hammell 22:16:04 "Steve, The company that made Microcosm (Psygnosis) is owned by Sony. and on a side note," Chris Huelsbeck did some work for Psygnosis. Roger Dean did some really awesome art for "Psygnosis, (Psygnosis is cool hehe)" Steven Churchill 22:17:02 Bill: "Yes, I'd like to check it out." Ron McBride 22:20:00 Well guys its been real. Steve thanks for the chat and God Bless you. Try and hook up with Wakeman. Its great stuff Steven Churchill 22:20:49 Bye Ron -- thanks for your thoughts and questions! Steven Churchill 22:22:23 Bill: "I'm going as well -- thanks for all of your support on the internet, and your participation tonight." Take care! [ Part 3: "Attached Text" ] ----------------------------------------------------- Ernie Holmes Pembroke Pines, FL holmes@icanect.net http://www.icanect.net/~holmes -----------------------------------------------------